György Dörner: There is one Hungary, not two.
The revolution in the lexicon is to change ownership. It wasn’t like that.
“Going back to the director’s cycle, we can remember that the appointment and protests several years ago accompanied the appointment, and then that sharp voice subsided around the New Theater. Moreover, it is as if there has been too much silence around him lately.
Ten years ago, the charges didn’t make any sense either, it was a blatant lie that was brought up against me. For example, – said Ágnes Heller – that I will be marching on brown shirts on Andrássy Avenue. What kind of bullshit is this? I’m sorry. Besides, it was painted on the asphalt so as not to tip it! It was. Common sense does not do that. They are all people struggling with mental disorder who have generated this against me and who have been the tools of those who have generated this against me. I have to say, it hasn’t gone out to this day. Silence does not mean that things do not lurk deep down. It smells, it smells.
Do you encounter this day in and day out?
Not every day, but I’ll meet you. Man feels everything because the good God has blessed his eyes, ears, skin, nose, mouth, other senses, he is aware of everything, sometimes even what he does not want to believe. The struggle is reflected in the New Theater as well as at the national level, I never understood why Hungarians have to fight against Hungarians, it makes no sense. It’s likely that history is taught badly, because if taught well, every guy and girl who learns history would be aware that we are forbidden to fight each other. On the one hand, we are few, and on the other hand, we are losing weight, according to all sorts of government measures, and we need to be aware of that. There is one Hungary, not two.
Yet this dichotomy exists, even in theatrical life.
I think it’s stupid.
There are two theater companies.
Yes, I think it’s stupid. And it always generates conflicts. There was a change of regime, if I remember correctly, starting in 1990, but I don’t feel the change in the theatrical life of Budapest, and not only there, I don’t feel it in many places. Unfortunately, the regime change was not really lucky in cultural life.
Is the regime change a little behind?
The anomalies of this are now being suffered by us who once believed that change had actually taken place or was taking place. We are confronted day by day with the fact that this is not the case, even through people from whom2 is dictated in 201 as before 1991. I’m not naming anyone because it would seem personal, but my opinion isn’t very good in that regard. Under the heading of revolution in the lexicon is that it means a radical change in ownership. There was certainly no revolution in this regard. Ownership has not changed radically. Ownership is still sometimes outrageous, if we look around Hungary, the cultural conditions are perhaps even more outrageous. There are a lot of improvements in public conditions, of course, and we’re moving forward in a lot of areas and we’re getting better and better able to fight the enemy, but we really have to fight the enemy and not seek his graces so as not to say bad things about me. If you fight, you have to fight the enemy. At least that’s what my grandmother told me. But he even said, Gyurika, learn that you have to run ten laps to be successful and accept one. I’m aware of that, but I’m already running the hundreds of laps and I’m still in second place. ”
Opening picture: Csilla MTI / Cseke